Curse

Red Sonya · Apr 30, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

I pug nearly everyday and I don't run into nearly as much problems with pugs as people in this thread are saying they do. I ran the new prophecies mission all last weekend and only ran into one bad group and it really wasn't that bad we just wiped. Big deal so we wiped accidents happen. Just because you wipe doesn't mean everyone in the group is a bad player. I find most players are good/average players I'm not expecting some elite gvg pve players when I group up. I actually learned to play the game for "fun" and not a must complete this mission at all costs first time type player. I've run into missions that we've failed numerous times, doesn't mean everyone was a bad player, things just happened, some quit (losers) and the rest of us kept going on. I remember one time in tombs we lost half our team, but, the four of us continued and still finished it. Quitters never win and usually are whinners the most. They want everyone else to hate the aspect of pugging because they don't like it, thus, why you see so many on websites.

Medic · Apr 30, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by I Can Cure Cancer

I find that monks for ursan groups are A LOT more irritable than your average monk...... coincidence? I think not.

Thats because monking for UB groups is a shitty shitty job, and can only result in frustration and an inevitable hatred of your fellow man.

Yuhe Ji · Apr 30, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medic

Thats because monking for UB groups is a shitty shitty job, and can only result in frustration and an inevitable hatred of your fellow man.

True. I once ran into a monk that refused to monk for UB, wanting to UB himself instead.

kobey · Apr 30, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji

True. I once ran into a monk that refused to monk for UB, wanting to UB himself instead.

Job Rotation?? hehe. Maybe the whammo can heal for a change.

edlittle · Apr 30, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25

My favorite PuG experience:

I was doing Selvetarm some random people, me as a R/Rt FS Barrager. We were doing pretty well, until outside the door to Selvetarm. The tank overaggros and we have 10+ toucher ghosties against us. We eventually whittle it down to 3 or 4, but one of the monks suddenly leaves. He is quickly followed by the other monk and a nuker. So now we have no healing. And one of the nukers goes AFK. We get back to the door and kill the ghostie touchers. We're in!

Selvetarm's group, after agro bunches up, so we died and came back again, after the nuker left. So we now have: tank, nuker, SS, ranger. After about 4 tries, we eventually finish off his group and now the end chest spawn. While the tank distracts the ghosties that spawn and we get the end chest. I was sweating the whole time.

Now that was probably the only good PuG I've ever had. I've had about 50 bad experiences. And the rest were average, nothing good, nothing bad.

RavagerOfDreams · Apr 30, 2008, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by Medic

Thats because monking for UB groups is a shitty shitty job, and can only result in frustration and an inevitable hatred of your fellow man.

definatley

was in a group with handy man couple days ago that managed to aggro almost the entire burning forest

wasn't a smart group to begin with so i saw it coming thankfully i dc'd right after two people dropped so i didn't have to listen to the excuses/insults on why i suck so much at monking

Taurucis · Apr 30, 2008, 01:16 PM // 13:16

Yesterday I met some dumb kid in alliance battles (no surprise eh) and wow, was he a moron.

<after loading into the map>
Moron: wow... warrior with a pet...
Me: Yup, that's me. Got a problem?
Moron: yes, u should be w/mo
Me: Suuuuure. ^^
Moron: i have mending touch
Me: Ok. <we've just finished capping mesmer shrine>
Moron: what does that big sparkly bird do
Me: Does it matter?
Moron: i have mending touch i'm not a w/mo
Me: Ok... that's nice.
Moron: <we are now capping the ranger shrine> wheres ur damage?????????
Me: <watches as an assassin rips up the Moron> Where's your survivability?
Moron: look i have mending touch
Me: Whoop de f'ing doo. <has just finished clearing up the ranger shrine as well as sent the assassin packing with the aid of my pet> Who's dead, and who's alive?
Moron: well you run into mobs
Me: Anything wrong with that?
Moron: if you have people mobbing we cap slower
Me: If I happen to run past a few people of our team, that's not a mob. <I'm starting on the mesmer shrine, Moron is at half health and hexed and all degen'ing nicely somewhere>
Moron: lol
Me: So, are you going to use your almighty Mending Touch to save yourself now?
Moron: <is dead> stfu noob pve scrub warrior with pet im not a w/mo i have mending touch
Me: You show up as W/Mo in the party window.
Moron: *ragequit*

Lilith St Cyr · Apr 30, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

The uber leet monks who know only how to spam HP and then cry for more energy

They can't be perfectly sane adults, can they?

PUGing NF mission with my dervish. A guy wants to bring his Dunk and Tahl. Both are Mo/R, with pets, and a smite or two, plus a few heals.
Me: Ranger monks ftw, eh?
Him: Noob! They're better than you!

N1ghtstalker · Apr 30, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

yesterday played in Hell's precipe with some french ppl
one of em was drawing genitals on the radar o_O

Kusandaa · Apr 30, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

A couple days back we got a new guild in the alliance, and yesterday I teamed up with 'em for a FoW run

. As we were missing some people, we had to PUG. We took a while to find people, but we eventually did, and one of them was someone (IIRC) quite known for FoW runs, I won't name who because of the rules... not because I don't wanna. Anyways.

We pick up the guy, and right off the bat he brags. "I do FOW runs in 43 minutes, noone I know [in this team]". Since my alliance folks are on vent, you can see it coming: "He's good, but not THAT good, I've teamed up with him already... guess he's alright" says one. We get more people, another one knows him.

When asked for cons, the guy complains that he's gonna have to use his set AND lead. We let it slip for now and we head off.

Inside, it goes like this (Vent discussions in italics, I remember the stuff but don't expect quotes):
Guy: I have to use MY set and lead...
Me: I'll use my set first. Don't care much anyways. (If that can shut him up)
Guy: But I have to use MY set and lead...
Alliance: Talk about some attitude... he's getting annoying already... *said a couple times until we each battlefield*
Guy: yeah well I don't wanna lead and use my cons.
Me: I've been here for *types age* 8 minutes and I'm already tired of him. Man he's arrogant.
Alliane: Yeah...
By battlefield he's still whining, and someone aggroes a mob by mistake.
Guy: No don't kill them, they're slowing us down!!! MY GOD!!! I'm faster!!
Alliance: Dude if you don't like it just leave.
Guy: But they're slowing us down! It's long! *whines a couple more times about the group being slow and aggroing more mobs than he wanted*
Alliance guy #1: ... Stop whining already
Alliance guy #2: Yeah it's annoying, sounds like you're a kid.
Guy: I'm not a kid, I'm 24!
Me: ... Act like it?
Alliance guy: Act like it...
PUG: Stop whining, act like your age...

He promptly shut up. Don't think I've heard him much for the rest of the run.

Oh and at the end, I'm bringing griffons.
Guy: Ok Cheran, bring griffons.
PUG #1: Come come!
Me: coming, coming... I have informants on vent...
PUG #2: lol u guys need vent for fow???
Alliance guy #1: ... because it's fun? because we like to talk?
Me: Socializing?
Alliance guy #2: I like vent...
Alliance: Why the hell does it matter?
Me: I'm on vent 24/7...
PUG #2: lol w/e...

Nemo the Capitalist · Apr 30, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

[QUOTE=BigDave] I kindly inform them to shut the ***k up.

QUOTE]

Is it possuble to kindly say that

Darkobra · Apr 30, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by Nemo the Capitalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDave

I kindly inform them to shut the ***k up.

Is it possuble to kindly say that

Only if you add "Please" to it.

enter_the_zone · Apr 30, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemo the Capitalist

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDave

I kindly inform them to shut the ***k up.

Is it possuble to kindly say that

Yes,it is . You could always say it like I do. "Shut the f**k up, or I'll make you eat your parents." That's not kind

TheRaven · Apr 30, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48

FOW tends to attract some of the biggest idiots around. I was pugging in TOA last week. Our leader is forming a group and looking for 1 more.
A ranger joins and pings a decent build. Our leader asks him to please add EoE to his bar as it will make the skeletals quicker. He refuses. He says his bar is perfect and he isn't changing it. He is also bragging that he does fow in 40-45 minutes max and his bar is godlike and our leader can just "stfu!!"

He's also filling up team chat with the typical "Go! Go! Go!!!!!!!" messages and other stuff that I can't repeat. Our leader finally kicks him and receives a lot of applause from the team. He then proceeds to fill up local chat with profanity and slurs aimed at our group leader telling everyone in town how horrible our leader is and nobody should join our team because we're just a bunch of noobs that would take more than 90 min to finish FOW.

I replied in local.."now you know why we kicked him off the team. Who wants to listen to that for an hour!"

Red Sonya · Apr 30, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Lmao too funny. Now I was just in a pug and this one warrior had UB. Well I merely said that I just did 90 damage with my wand and he laughed. Stating that his UB did 65 + 65 damage every attack and of course I laughed that he was using UB at any rate. Welp guess who DIED TWICE during the run? hahah wasn't me, was the ole UB dude and he didn't get to cap his elite either hahaha. We were doing the portal wraiths and his green boss was right there, but, someone else in the group said to kill the wraiths first (so I did hehe). Well of course we know if you kill the wraiths first and they are the last 3 wraiths what happens?

If he hadn't kept on with how great UB is etc. he might have got his elite and not died so much (I'll have to have a talk with my Dunkoro about healing him)

RavagerOfDreams · May 01, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

kk i got a new one

in fort aspenwood on my monk going in to bond
now he was being a idiot b4 this so if i seem mean right off the bat he had it coming although i'm generally a dick anyways

<start having conversation about soviet russia jokes>
me: In soviet russia wammo heals you
idiot: you know not all wammos are bad just the ones that use mending
me: no in general most wammos are bad
idiot: my wammo does damage and takes it
Idiot: i use defy pain
me: defy pain sucks
idiot: whats wrong with defy pain its f***ing awesome?
me: everything its a sad elite
me:you could have eviscerate or dslash godmode
me: deals out way more but still has defensive qualities
me: i know the whole concept of not failing is new to you but
me: please try to accept it
idiot: you are ignorant
me: nope, not at all
random other idiot: am fah thats not very nice
me: im a dick in general
idiot: you think you are good at pvp cuz every build is cut out to be in a perfect team
me: yes it is
idiot: sorry hun but
me: did you just call me hun?
me : /slap
idiot: you got to accept that you wont always have a monk or any other good players
me: i am a monk ill always have one
new other random idiot: am fah is just off her meds probably
idiot:yea if you are a monk then stop telling warriors how to do their job

the last part proved to me it was a crazy 12 year old
/long sigh

Kusandaa · May 01, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Yeah, I must attract morons. This is a long-ass post, but it all happened within 20-25 minutes.

Friend and I are bored, so we decide to PUG UW Ursan (yeah, ursan, I don't give a crap what comments might be related to this). "UW GLF 1 terra tank with mimicry, 2 HB monks and 3 R8+ ursans". Typical group, eh. And you know what happens when you ask for ursans... you get ursans.

In 5 minutes I get the following:
- A 55 monk
- A nuker who thought we weren't going ursan
- A guy who thought we were doing FoW
- A R2 Ursan
- A R4 Ursan

The team wound up as the following:
- 2 HB Monks
- A HB monk with some prots
- A Terra Tank who refuses to run with mimicry ("At least he'll nuke", we thought... don't jump to conclusions, you'll see why I make my terras bring mimicry after this, the next one isn't escaping it unless it's alliance/friend)
- 3 R8+ ursans: warrior, ele, and something else... necro IIRC.

INSIDE:
Everyone's ready, I aggro. No one follows me, but at least I got healers. Took 'em a while to move, they killed the first mob and I aggroed the second. Died right there, no one was beside me. (You know how sometimes you aggro and the rest of the team comes, like... 99% of the times? Well that time is the 1% ¬¬). They come, kill off the mob, I get res'ed, we move on.

On our way to Labyrinth, slower... much slower than usual. All this time, the terra tank is staying far away from us, only using MS twice. He didn't do anything else but move and leech off drops (and that's WHY I want mimicry on their bars, else they don't do anything for most of the run!). We thought he could nuke a bit to help but doesn't much, so it quickly gets on our nerves. The prot monk isn't doing anything either, despite the mass damage the puller gets (usually me, but I got out-pulled by the warrior a couple times) and the group who doesn't kill very fast.

My friend makes me notice, on vent, that the warrior seems to have not used ursans since he's using sword skills, but I tell him it might be because he had aggroed the graspings and they drained his energy or something... but I highlight him and I see Glad's Defense. Times like these are the only times you'll see me spam-pinging something in team chat.

Me: Erm why are you running Glad's Defense? I asked for ursans...
Him: no u askd for tank
Me: .... I asked for a -TERRA- tank, not the same...

We got to the reaper, but someone started taking quests right away. Unwanted Guest. "Doh". Restoring. "Eh..." Escorting of Souls. "****".

Me: *over vent, highly annoyed* Can I rage? I've had enough, let's find a better team...
Friend: *over vent* Yeah sure.

We both leave. I told myself that I would, from now on, check if everyone was ursan.

Moral of first story: read spams before self-inviting, guys. PLEASE.

We're annoyed but still want to do something with people, so instead of UW we start a FoW group. We pick up a monk right away, then another which is an ursan. During this we still get a couple people.

Ursan monk: i do this fast so i want to be in lead. im on q duty and i kill wolves. got that??
Friend: Oh Cheran does this in less than 45 minutes...
Me: *Over vent* WHAT?! Man I'm not that fast.
Friend: *Over vent* I just told him that to shut him up

Ursan monk: yh well i do this in less then 45 mins too
Over vent, both: Lawl. Yeah.

We grab more, we go in.

INSIDE: I wait till everyone's loaded and I aggro. Turns out my friend loaded a but slower and the other monk didn't do anything - I died and so did another ursan. I apologize and use the cons set when both of us are res'ed. I draw on the map to avoid a mob, but the so-called-"im-better-then-u" other leader decides to aggro a different one, and all the ursans are ahead of me now. So we have triple aggro, a monk who doesn't seem to do much while my friend is rushing. We die within 4 minutes.

The monk did say it was his fault (wow for once someone takes the blame! TBH I've seen this only 3-4 times in nearly 3 years...), but my friend and I were just too tired so we called its quits for now.

CagedinSanity · May 01, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Random, but relevant thought:

I think it's funny how all the taboo on racial slurs are being pounded into kids for being "extremely bad", but over the internet they sling them around like they're nothing.
Same case with Xbox live. It's hilarious.

TheRaven · May 01, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

I have a story. This doesn't involve a 12 year old and it doesn't involve a pug, yet still typical.

I have a friend that plays GW. He is an adult yet he sometimes has the maturity of a 12 year old. Thankfully he rarely tries to play with other players. He will group up with friends and guildies but never pug with strangers.

This guy was playing for probably a year before I bought the game. When I started he was one of the few people I knew ingame, so I adventured with him a lot and let him show me the ropes. It took about a month before I realized that I knew wayyy more than he did.

He's your typical wammo. Charge in, kill first, ask questions later. Once I was attempting to vanquish with him. Just us and 6 heroes. We had a party wipe and I was the only one left alive. I used rebirth on him and then waited for my energy to regen to get the heroes up. As soon as I rebirthed him, he ran off and aggroed a nearby mob. While I'm standing there yelling...WAIT FOR EVERYONE TO REZ!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately that's typical.

Last night he contacted me and asked if I had a good E/A raptor build. I told him I usually don't farm in HM there because I'm typically just looking for holiday drops when I raptor farm. Anyways I wasn't on my Ele and I wasn't in town so I couldn't ping a build.

I told him to check pvxwiki and that my typical build uses Shadow Form, Light of Deldrimor and a bunch of PBAoE fire skills like lava font, inferno, Glyph sacced MS, etc.

He thanked me and left. A half hour later he pings me his build and asks if it's good. He had Shadow Form, 2 dagger attacks, Flare, Firestorm, Fire Attunement, Glyph Sac and MS.

Well at least he included MS.

Elia · May 01, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

yesterday played in Hell's precipe with some french ppl
one of em was drawing genitals on the radar o_O

Never, never PUG with frenchies, they are the champions of stupid things like that, really...

I often play in alliance battle as a healer (Ritualist), it's hard for me to find a decent group and most of the time they don't cap, run and mobs to kill kurzicks like they're here to farm balthazar factions. And of course, insult most of the players they kill.

A day ago when joining a party in AB :

<me> : hi
<guy> : show build
I show my build...
<guy> : weapon of shadow sucks it doesn't heal use something else
<me> : well it blinds the opponents and it's not my only spell don't worry I know how to use my build
<guy> : kick him
<guy> : kick him
<guy> : kick him

2 seconds later I got kicked out for no good reason.

It's a common example in my experience.